Episode 28 features Emily Jans, a boxer, kickboxer, and drummer in Australian hardcore band Straightjacket Nation. Emily, who won the 2012 Australian Amateur Boxing title and now retired, is training and coaching others in her new clinic, 'Off the Wall', a boxing community space in Collingwood also run by Kristy Harris, a x4 time National Boxing Champ.

In this episode, Emily speaks about finding the drums as a youth, her boxing and kickboxing journey, how Straightjacket Nation formed, why she felt the need to start 'Off the Wall' with Kristy, and more.

Apologies in advance for small background noises in parts of this chat.